Jamie Moyer: Is he a Hall of Famer?

July 15, 2010|by the Daily News
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"Now if he gets to 300 wins and is still winning as he closes in on 50, he carves out such a unique place in baseball history for himself that he may cause voters to think about him differently. But by traditional Hall of Fame standards, it would be hard to make a case for him at the moment.

"It's not an insult to any player to say he wasn't quite a Hall of Famer. So if we're even having this debate, it tells us this guy has had an amazing career. I'm just not ready to say it was a Hall of Fame career."

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- Jayson Stark, ESPN.com

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"While what Jamie has done is impressive to the point of being stunning, it's hard to see him as a strong Hall of Fame candidate. The Hall of Fame is supposed to be reserved for players who were dominant in their time. Jamie has pitched for a long time, and has pitched well, but I find it hard to believe anyone would say he has been dominant. He was chosen for one All-Star Game in 24 years. How can he be placed among the best of the best?"

- Danny Knobler, CBSSports.com

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"Until Jim Kaat [who has some 20 more wins than Moyer] gets in, I can't champion Moyer's candidacy. If Kaat were in, I would feel differently."

- Rick Hummel, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

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"Before the last couple of seasons, I would have said that Jamie Moyer isn't a Hall of Fame pitcher. I still don't think he is, but I think he's improved his standing, and I think that, if he ever does retire [ha], voters will have to take a longer look at him, simply because of the last couple of seasons.

"I'd say Jamie Moyer is closer than he was. Jack Morris [254 wins] and Bert Blyleven [287] are deserving and not in. Tommy John has 288 wins and gets little support.

"Voters will ask: Is Jamie Moyer a dominate pitcher [a la Morris and Blyleven] or was he more of a longevity guy? That will be the question.

"In short, I'd say he's closer, but will not get in. However, who knows how we will feel when he retires in another 10 years?"

- Mel Antonen, USA Today

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"Jamie Moyer has had an amazing career, and he deserves a ton of credit for sticking around and pitching effectively until age 47. But I think it's going to be difficult for him to make the Hall of Fame. One of the main arguments against Jack Morris is that he posted a 3.90 career ERA, and Moyer's ERA is 4.23.

"He's made one career All-Star team, and if you look on Baseball-reference.com, his prime career comparables are guys like Dennis Martinez, Morris, Jerry Reuss and David Wells - the "very good but not quite Hall of Fame caliber" fraternity.

"If Moyer gets to 300 wins, I'm sure it would prompt the writers to vote for him in a different light. Personally, I would have to take a serious look at him as a candidate, but the overall record falls short for me."

- Jerry Crasnick, ESPN.com

 

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