"At the time, everybody followed the rules for abortion," Schwarz told her and another Pro Life Union volunteer in front of reporters.
Schwarz said that he stopped sending patients to the practice when some of them returned with sexually transmitted diseases. He said that he followed up with a hand-delivered complaint to the state Secretary of Health, but never heard back about his concerns.
Schwarz and Smith testified before the state Senate local government committee, headed by Sen. John Eichelberger Jr., R-Mifflin.
"We want to make sure that this horror story doesn't get told again," said state Sen. Mike Stack, D-Phila.
Since the Gosnell grand-jury report was released earlier this year, charging Gosnell with the death of one woman and seven babies, the city's Health Department has stepped up efforts to provide citizens with information on how and where to lodge complaints, Schwarz said. They may call 3-1-1 for contact information or access it on the city website.
Also, any complaints received by the department will be relayed by a staffer to the state "in a timely manner," he said.
The city had no authority to close Gosnell's clinic because abortion facilities fall under the state's jurisdiction, Smith said.
If the city interferes in state oversight of such matters, it could result in a lawsuit by the provider. The city's authority over abortion clinics is limited to business and building codes, she said.
"The city role in regulating abortion facilities is limited," Smith said. State regulations prohibit the city from passing its own laws on abortion regulation, she said.
Eichelberger questioned the city's take on the laws.
"Do you think it's an acceptable position to simply say, 'It's not our responsibility in Philadelphia'?" he asked. " 'We don't have the power. We're going to refer to you to the appropriate state inspections and let them handle it'?"
"To characterize the city's position as 'tough luck' for the people who suffered as a result of these consequences is inappropriate," Smith said, adding that the regulations that apply to abortion clinics place responsibility to oversee them on the state Department of Health.